Friday, May 15, 2009

Meiland Discussion Questions from Group 2 (Pgs 7-12)

Choose one question to respond to, or you can respond to what someone else has posted:

1. Meiland says that university is not really an "Ivory Tower" (p 1-11). Do you think it's true? Are there any aspects of an ivory tower in university?

2. On page 1-8 line 3, Meiland says "What we must do is find good reasons for believing what we believe." How is it possible for college students to distinguish good reasons from not good reasons?

3. Meiland says “a government wants to exert greater control and reduce inquiry into the belief that its rule is just or its politics are bad” (p 1-12, line 4). Do you think the current Japanese government also does not want critical inquiry into such things?

Group 2 Leaders:
Sayaka I.
Fumihiro T.
Ayumi T.

20 comments:

  1. [2]I think that the most important thing to distinguish good reasons from not good reasons is evidence. Only the beliefs will not be a good reasons. however, if there are obvious evidences, it will be a good reasons. Therefore, students should find evidences in the reasons to find a good one.

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  2. [1]The question asked us tothink about the aspect of the university as a subversive institution. Meiland said that the university is not always "ivory tower". I think that recent universities are not "ivory tower" perfectly, because most university have a strong connection with the world or the company that provide the opportunity of work for the students of the university. Then the university cannot do the study becoming disadvantageous of the company. In fact, it is offten that the professor of a big university has a strong connection with a big company. So, I guess the university is not a "ivory tower" anymore.

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  3. [3]I think the current Japanese government does not want critical inquiry into such things. For now, political type in Japan is democracy. In general, democracy must accept opinions of citizens even if critical opinions, but the current Japanese government consist of a member of congress within the ruling party. They certainly want to win many seats in an election.If some critical inquiry spread in public, the opposition would take the place of the ruling party. Threfore I think the current Japanese government does not want.

    By the way, who is "Ayami"??

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  4. I am glad for your comment,Yuki.
    Certainly,there are many universities that have strong connections with companies.So you agree with Meiland.
    Your comment is easy to understand.Thank you.

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  5. [2]I agree with Mai. I also think evidence is important for us to distinguish good reasons from not good reasons. Sometimes our beliefs may be true but we can not say these beliefs are always good reasons because many of things that we dream turn out to be false as Meiland said. So what we should do is spending more time to search definite evidences. Through this way, we can understand what are the good reasons.

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  6. [1]I think the university is "Ivory Tower"-at least ICU. For example, we hear the talk of seniores that the common of ICU is not pass in society. Certainry, the university has strong conection with society. But if shot ourselves up in college- few friends other than the university-, we might be left alone in society or be seen as an oddball. We should go out and make connection with other usually.

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  7. Thank you for answering the question Mai and Aika. You two think that the key word to distinguish good reason and not good reason is "evidence". Right? I could understand well. thank you.

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  8. Thank you for your comment, Ryusuk. Your opinion is that current Japnese government does not want critical inquiry because ruling party want to keep own clean image in order to maintain political power. I understand. Thank you.

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  9. [2]I also think evidence is important to distinguish good reasons from not good reasons. I guess it is difficult for college students to find evidences supporting good reasons. But it`s not impossible for college students to do this. So, first of all, what we have to do is work hard to collect some keys of evidences. If we succeed to do it, we can be justified in believing what we do believe.

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  10. {1}I agree with YUKI. I think universy is not "ivory tower" because there is good relationship beween university and the world now. Scholars and university students can ask everything ,and they can require for their curiosity in university. And sometimes their study and investigation connect to produce something usefull for the world. In addition, as YUKI said, the world give opportunities of working the university students. So, university and the world need each other.

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  11. [2] I agree with three person who answered Q2, and I want to add that if evidence is logical, it is more likely to turn to good evidence.I think college students can judge whether it is lojical, because they would learn or have already learned to way of thinking at university.Learning at there helps students judge.

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  12. Thank you for your comments, Akari.
    You think that most universities are not "Ivory Tower," but there are also universities that are "Ivory Tower" like ICU.
    Your example was interesting. I also sometimes hear that ICU students have peculiar character to other university students.Thank you.

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  13. [2] I agree with Kana's opinion. The evidence is necessary for distinguishing good reasons from not good reasons. I think that college students can find evidence from their own experiences or from dialogues, and maybe Meiland said like this. A reason with the evidence, which may be a good reason, has the power to persuade people to be convinced of the belief which one has.

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  14. [1]I think that a university is not ivory tower. In other words, I agree with the Meiland's position. The reason is almost same with Yuki, so I think even though a university do not want to relate to a company, it is possible to relate to the company through the university's study, for example, product and management of the company. So, I think what Meiland said is true.

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  15. I'm glad to have Kana, Yoshimi and Kanako's answer. I think that good reasons comes from reasonable evidence. And the evidence must have the power to pursuade somebody. And the power comes from its logicality too. So it seems difficult to have good reasons.

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  16. Hinako, thank you for your good comment. Certainly some studies in university contribute to our daily life. I understood your point.

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  17. [1] I think what Meiland says is true. Moreover I think that university should not be an Ivory Tower and feedback is very important. In fact, what is find in college study is used in daily life, for example nanotechnology, brain science (what is called NOUTORE), etc... Anyway, I think university is not an Ivory Tower. Ciao.

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  18. Sorry!! In my above comment, "find" should be revised to "found" :-|

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  19. Thank you for your good comments,Hinako,Keisuke and Yosuke.
    All of you agreed with Meiland.
    Actually, universities have strong connections with the world. So we can't assert that university is "Ivory Tower."

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  20. (2) What you belive in one belief without thinking critically don't have a good reason. If you have reliable sources, you have good reasons. For examples, accurate statistics and logical opinion not related to mejor opinion etc...

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